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EAGR to Run, Aiming to Improve Rye’s Record, Two Join Council Race

Two additional candidates have thrown their hats into the ring for the city council race this fall. Peter Jovanovich, husband of Rye Record publisher Robin Thrush Jovanovich, and Suzanna Keith, declared their candidacy this afternoon. They are both pursuing the Republican ticket. There is no mention in the announcement of former Rye cop Tim Chittenden who is also seeking the GOP ticket.

MyRye.com will have more in the coming days. Their press release follows:

Keith, Jovanovich to Run on Slate with French

This week, Suzanna Keith and Peter Jovanovich announced their candidacy for City Council. Both are longtime volunteers in the community. Keith is a founding member of the Environmental Advocacy Group of Rye (EAGR) and was a past chair of The Twig Inc. Jovanovich is a member of the Board of Architectural Review and treasurer of the Friends of Rye Nature Center.

“Many of our citizens, from young families to empty-nesters to seniors, are struggling to live in Rye,” said Keith. “We must find a way to reduce our tax burden so Rye is sustainable.”

Jovanovich believes: “Rye faces serious economic issues, and yet our government has been slow to act. What is needed is a sense of urgency and decisiveness on all fronts.”

Keith and Jovanovich support Douglas French's candidacy for Mayor and expect, along with French, to receive the Republican nomination. This week, the Independence Party formally endorsed French, Keith and Jovanovich for Rye City Council.

Peter Jovanovich, 60, is President and Chairman of the Alfred Harcourt Foundation, which gives college scholarships to disadvantaged students, and works with them and the colleges to ensure high graduation rates. Jovanovich retired as CEO of Pearson Education, the world's largest educational publisher, after a 32-year career in book publishing. He graduated from Princeton University with a degree in English.

Suzanna Keith, 42, has an MBA in Marketing and International Business from New York University. For the past eleven years, she has run her own marketing consulting firm focusing on new product launches and business development of consumer brands ranging from $5 million to $500 million in size.

Four seats are up for election this fall, including Mayor.

214 COMMENTS

  1. We can never have too many special invectigations as long as Republicans like Joe Sack are around! These Republicans seem to be following in his footsteps. Maybe they could also try and get the council meetings moved to MyRye.com like Mr. Sack tried to do. Can’t wait to see the circus Rye will become if these Republican turds are elected.

  2. Axis of Evil –

    Thanks for sharing – you’ve confirmed my assessment of your inability to add any meaningful contribution. People like you will always be whining about who’s on the council and what they’re doing, even if it’s good for the city. If we had Mayor Washington leading Lincoln, FDR, Jefferson, Reagan, Roosevelt and Kennedy, you’d still be complaining about something. If you are so unhappy with the choices, why don’t you join the race and clean up the mess yourself? Or are you just an axhole of evil?

  3. I am with you Scooter. Does Hen Island really have any problems? Is there any hard evidence the harbor is polluted? NO! And as far as I am concerned if people want to use the water collected on their roofs let them take a guano bath, thats their choice. That is Bermudas entire way of getting water and they don’t complain.

    Did that jackass move his car from in front of the church yet?

  4. Could you please move your car from the front of Resurrection Church? It is very distasteful. There is no need for these types of childish games.

    [I decided to take a page out of Ray’s playbook — I am going to hijack every thread – regardless of topic – and post this message.]

  5. Peter Jovanovich wow theres a change! all you have to do is read his articles in the ryerecord and see what side he is on!

  6. Claremont Baby!

    Might that be on the side of good government, non selective enforcement of environmental laws, respect for police and firefighters, the flexibility to test a new stop sign or two, the abhorrence of constant litigation and obscene and climbing legal fees, the focus on cutting the size of government rather than whiffing each year on controlling city spending – if that’s the side he’s on, then can we have a few more of him right now please?

  7. Scooter,

    I would feel your pain. I would feel like a loser too if my candidtaes were running on a platform communicated by Joe Sack. This town also doesn’t need another self proclaimed environmentalist. All environmentalists do is try and erode your personal property rights thru regurgitation of environmental laws. Eventually you end up with absolutely no rights and the environmentalists controlling your life. Just take a look at the Schuibert and Tartaglione cases. We need Otis to be elected to another term with the same Council minus Joe Sack.

  8. Could you please move your car from the front of Resurrection Church? It is very distasteful. There is no need for these types of childish games.

    [I decided to take a page out of Ray’s playbook — I am going to hijack every thread – regardless of topic – and post this message.]

  9. I am.

    It is a disgrace that his car is parked in front of a house of worship. There was a beautiful wedding there on Saturday. Imagine the bride pulling up and seeing that car there.

    I haven’t given my thoughts one way or another as to the Hen Island issues; just want a little decency.

    Agree?

  10. AWP,
    Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. I am not responding to your opinion….. my request is based on your retaliation in “hijacking every thread” seems a bit elementary like….. What are we in 3rd grade???? You obviously are not a FAN of what Ray is trying to accomplish….usually when I don’t agree with someone the last thing I will think of doing is matching that individual.
    I see no pride in your actions.

  11. NTOUCH, how come you haven’t responded in kind when you (um, I mean Ray) hijacks every thread.

    Nevermind, that one is easy to figure out.

    Keep it up, Act with Pride, you are getting under his skin.

  12. Hey clueless – Keepin it real,
    Definitely not getting under my skin and most definitely not Ray. I tell it like it is and often sign on with my real name. What I said,like everything I say is real. I am not Ray & don’t see a problem being Ray. You shuold try being as genuine as Ray. You don’t have to like his tactics but you can’t ignore him. He is fighting for something real & getting results.

  13. Hey clueless – Keepin it real,
    Definitely not getting under my skin and most definitely not Ray.

    OK Ray, whatever you say.

  14. Ray,
    These people truly need their heads checked.
    What a bunch of idiots.
    I hear Susan Hendler is hiring…. you losers would be perfect for her.
    “FLUSH THIS LOSERS”!!!

  15. Mayor Otis and the Council–

    Why do you bother with serving with this complete axhole Tartaglione running around when the sole purpose in his pathetic existance is to hassle you? You must be sadists…

    Can we hold an election to get rid of him?

  16. NTOUCH,
    Have you noticed that I only respond to their legitimate questions and don’t address their personal attacks? When people attack you personally it’s because they can’t address the real issues. The more they do it, the more everyone understands who and what they represent. Ever notice the polluters never use their names.

  17. As a first time contributer to myrye I would like to say that at first I admired what Ray was trying to do. Nobody wants to see or community (L.I. Sound) be polluted. I now see Rays mobile bulliten board as a problem. I see the car parked in a school zone where it it taking up spaces for our kids who need a parking spot at school, It is left at numerous spots and personally I think you have become what you are trying to fight. I applaud the local police for ticketing and towing your eyesore. Lose the car and I think you might get some people on your side. My 2 cents

  18. Lose the car and you’ll support him? Are you out of your mind? Go to http://www.ryeny.gov/rctv.hm and look at part 1 of the last Council meeting. Forward to 1 hour 08 min into it. You will see Mr. Tartaglione talking about collecting rainwater on Hen Island. Replay it a couple times so you really get a good feel for what he is saying. I’ll paraphrase it for you. What Mr. Tartaglione basically says is “Mr. Mayor, I take showers on Hen Island with water containing bird feces and I will continue to do so unless you stop me. Mr. Mayor, I have no responsibility for my life and am asking you, the CEO of Rye, to use the power of the gov’t to stop me from taking showers in water contaminated with bird feces”. If it wasn’t there as clear as day on tape you wouldn’t believe it. But there he is asking the Mayor to be a dictator and take over his life. What’s even scarier is that Joe Sack and the Republicans are on board with this way of thinking. The new candidates say Mayor Otis should heed Mr. Tartaglione’s pleas. Mr. Tartaglione’s ideas make Barack Obama look like a neo-con. You can’t make this shit ( the bird type) up. And you support him? I assume you’re OK with the results in Iran also?

  19. Mr. Tartaglione,

    When are you going to get rid of your rainwater cisterns? When are you going to get rid of your sess pool? Are you waiting for the gov’t to do it for you or are you gonna take reposibility for your own life and leave everyone else alone? You know, Bob Schubert was over in Okinawa fighting for the preservation of America’s liberties and to fight under fascism. Now, Bob Schubert is one of the biggest supporters of gov’t intervention in American’s private property rights. Did he forget why he landed on Okinawa over 60 yeras ago? Do you know why he was sent there? He was there fighting for our individual freedoms. I can’t even fathom what is going on in Rye right now. Thank God we have Mayor Otis and the current Council, sans Jow Sack, keeping the American dream alive.

  20. Axhole of Evil:

    I love how you have already branded the Republicans. Way to keep your mind open! Can you tell me where they’ve stated Otis should heed Ray’s pleas?
    Otis is “keeping the American dream alive”? When did the American dream become a circus and laughingstock? Perhaps you meant American nightmare – a totally ineffectual government that fails, again and again, to address the needs of the people.

  21. Joe Sack has already articulated the Republican platform. It will involve special investigations and myrye.com. Jovanovich is a self-proclaimed environmentalist. That’s a real Republican for ya. I am a Republican and this new Rye Republicanism is enough to make you puke. It’s the “environmentalist that have turned Rye into a “circus and laughingstock”, not Otis and the City Council. Scooter, I feel your pain but these candidates are not Republican. The Mayor and the Council are the REAL republicans. They respect property rights, as demonstrated by their respect for the Gates’s rights. They also dealt with Mr. Floatie the only way they could, with patience. They deserve to stay on and to the work of the city. Can you imagine if Joe Sack and these “republican” candidates were running the city? It would be a “circus”.

  22. Scooter,

    BTW, some environmental committee voted to make someone on Hen Island take down a wall they repaired to protect their property. Another example of the “environmentalist” throwing personal property right to the wind in favor of some irrattional environmental code. It’s out of hand. I love the environment and want to preserve it but when it becomes environmental terrorism, I have no tolerance for that.

  23. Scooter,

    You want a simple way of making the gov’t more effective? It’s already been suggested. Put all business not on the agenda at the end of the Council meeting. If the issues sre important enough, then make them an agenda item.

  24. Hey Axis of evil, where in my comments did it say “I” would support him. All I was getting at was if he stopped leaving his piece of s%#t car all over the place people would be less inclined to call him an ass. Personally I don’t appreciate him leaving it all over the place.

  25. Axis of Evil,
    Maybe you didn’t understand what I was saying, so I will try to say it in simpler terms. I don’t own the property on Hen Island and because of that, I cannot drill a well or install compliant septic systems or hook up to the city water or city sewers. Some would like the citizens of Rye to believe that I am asking the city to pick up the tab for the necessary changes on Hen Island. That is completely wrong. Any and all work should be and is the responsibility of Hen Island and its residents. The reason we are in this situation is because the City of Rye has never required Hen Island to comply with the building, health or safety codes in Rye.
    Frank Culross took the first giant step last month in fixing some of the problems on Hen Island and I believe he would have gone much further if Otis were not tying his hands.
    Otis would like everyone to believe that Shew was the problem. (Shew was just the sacrificial lamb) He is the problem and he is the one avoiding being responsible and avoiding communicating. He lacks the ability to say, sorry we made a mistake and this is what we have to do to correct it. That is the problem with Schubert. That is the problem with Amico. That is the problem with the police. That is the problem with the Fire Department and that is the problem with Hen Island. With Otis running Rye we will have these problems over and over again only the names and complaints will change. I believe they fought Mr. King until they realized there was money to be made in another lawsuit. (There is a lot of money being moved around in litigation and settlements in Rye) millions of taxpayer’s dollars
    Look at what is going on in this city with Otis in charge. It wasn’t too long ago that everyone in Westchester looked at Rye with envy. Look at what they say now, and you can thank the good Mayor Otis for that.

  26. Mr. Tartaglione,

    You write “I cannot drill a well or install compliant septic systems or hook up to the city water ”

    If you brought a porta-potty out to Hen Island every time you went out there you would have a compliant sewage solution. Composting toilets are BOH approved for use in Westchester. I’m not sure YOU understand. Stop being so stubborn. There are alternatives, you just keep ignoring them. You could remove your rainwater cisterns and bring your potable water out there with you. That is a totally accepted practice in NYS. I’m not sure what more you need to do. It’s a simple solution for a simple way of life.

  27. Mr. Tartaglione writes: “The reason we are in this situation is because the City of Rye has never required Hen Island to comply with the building, health or safety codes in Rye.”

    No, the reason Hen Island is in this situation is because of you. Rye didn’t initiate this whole debacle. You did and I’m not sure what really has changed out there? Seems like the same place to me.

  28. Not sure what world or rock all you present council supporters are living under. You definitely need some smelling saltz!!!
    Did anyone pay attention to the Schubert discussions the other night??? All night the council was supporting doing a Dye Test when all along they knew they will never get access to the Gates Property to do so!
    COME ON………….. I’m sure most of you are highly educated but try applying a little common sense!

  29. Common sense is knowing the Gates have rights. There was an older gentleman there the other night and I thought he was on the verge of recommending getting the national guard to invade the Gates’s property and secure the drywell for inspection and dye testing.

  30. NTOUCH writes:

    “Wow,
    I just printed most of the writings from Axhole and now I will use them to wipe my ass.”

    That’s more use than I’ve gotten out of your posts.

  31. Axis,
    Wake up! I AM NOT suggesting someone invade their privacy or abuse their rights. Pay attention now.. I know this is difficult coming from someone with your intelligence. Q: Why do you think the entire council was on board in agreement with a Dye Test????

    A: Because they knew in advance that under no circumstance will it ever be allowed.
    BTW- The gap between the Question & Answer paragraph is for you to “READ BETWEEN THE LINES!!!
    ARE YOU WITH ME YET????

  32. A new motion picture is being released on 4th of July weekend. It’s called “Three Babies and a Man” starring Mayor Otis as the Man and you can fill in your 3 favorite Crye residents who never appear on the agenda but show up every Crye Council meeting slobbering all over themselves.

  33. NTOUCH let’s see if the site facts might help here,

    The City’s hired hydrologist Kevin Philips and the city’s former naturalist Chantal Detlefs have both publically testified that the Gates property is A WETLAND. That’s not in dispute and that’s not a casual definition tossed about by unscientific sources.

    New water draining devices – a drywell, subsurface piping and other things – were installed in A WETLAND on the Gates property without any city wetland permit, without proper soil analysis and testing, without proper construction documentation, without proper construction inspection and seemingly without reference to any wetland laws on the city’s books. Both the Planning Commission and the CCAC were completely circumvented in this matter.

    The immediate result was downstream loss of groundwater flow to a historic swamp now pond whose owner did his best to notify the city while the Gates construction was in progress that an environmental accident was occurring and his property was being damaged. He was and has been rebuffed ever since. And the former pond has become a health hazard because of its virtual stagnation. The city council has now spent dozens of hours to uncover these facts. The question is what will they do with them.

  34. If you brought a porta-potty out to Hen Island every time you went out there you would have a compliant sewage solution. Composting toilets are BOH approved for use in Westchester. I’m not sure YOU understand. Stop being so stubborn. There are alternatives, you just keep ignoring them. You could remove your rainwater cisterns and bring your potable water out there with you. That is a totally accepted practice in NYS. I’m not sure what more you need to do. It’s a simple solution for a simple way of life.

    Posted by: Axis of Evil

    Congratulations, Axis, you have solved the Hen Island issue.

    Ray, these solutions are legal, cost effective and easy to implement. Convert your waste system to a composting or self contained toilet, empty your rain barrels and fill them with fresh water. Now, you have no fear of polluting the Sound or of washing in bird feces.

    Solicit your neighbors to install the same toilets. If they choose to continue to wash in rainwater, that is their business and will not affect anyone else.

    If you get on board with this, Ray, you can make it happen.

  35. Don’t think Ray would do that. Not enough controversy. Then what would he do? Where would he park his car?

    Does anybody know if Ray ‘manned up” yet and moved his car from in front of the church?

  36. Ted,
    You and I know and understand all of this. Question is….. are these people Crye,Axis,and others really this Blind and Nieve? Usually(99.9%) most of the time when you follow a money trail eventually you will find the end or the beginning,and in between lyes the truth. Same goes for FACTS….. why are all of these arguementative losers fighting the FACTS. It is what it is! I don’t see the gain in all of this for the ones fighting against the truth. Am I crazy and the only one who can read between the lines? I sat in front of my TV for 4 hours(sad & true) to watch and hear these Pathetic Excuses for Councilmen(Leaders) repeat time after time that they are in full agreement to move forward with a Dye Test when all along it didn’t matter because they were told before hand it would never happen.
    WHAT A F***ING JOKE!
    And these Otis worshipers actually believe & fall for this crap. I didn’t know people could possibly be this stupid. HOLY SHIT!!!

  37. No sooner than I posted the info about the new movie coming out July 4th weekend I got a phone call from an executive at Paramount saying my information is incorrect. He said that Paramount hadn’t decided on a name for the movie yet. He said it would be a docu-drama based on the real life events in Crye. He said the marketing team is leaning toward “The Crying Game” as the name but names like “Tear Hunter” and “Crye Noon” have been tossed around. The executive also said that the docu-drama was a challange to make because the director was trying to balance realism and drama while shooting the movie. He said the director had to move the location of the film to Shanghai because no audience would believe that the amount of crying going on in Crye was produced by a community of only a couple thousand residents. The director believed that a city of 50 -60 million would be needed to produce as much crying and that was his reason for the location change. The director also said it was the first time he took dramatic license to REDUCE the real life crying. He said movie goers would just walk out of the theater if he left the amount of crying that actually exists in Crye in the film. He said much of the real life crying was left on the editing room floor. The executive said that Paramount didn’t want to produce another Jurassic Park where all the actors did for the whole movie was cry and scream which caused audiences around the world to shove cotton in their ears during the movie. He also said that when the director first arrived in Crye to get a first hand feel for what was going on, he fell speechless for days. The director actually became mute and needed to attend therapy sessions to restore his speech.

  38. Just Wondering,
    Whether or not any Otis followers admit to it or not everyone knows this whole Schubert thing was Fudged from the very beginning. A lie leads to a lie leads to a lie. This is like a water leak that just has no end. We pay for the Phillips hydrology report without a dye test. I mean really-
    THIS GETS MORE PATHETIC BY THE MINUTE. Now there is no chance of a dye test. The Gates have every right to deny access- in my opinion they are definitely hiding the truth. I am sure glad they are not my neighbor(if neighbor is what they call them selves).
    In my opinion: THERE SHOULD BE A FULL INVESTIGATION ON EVERYONE INVOLVED-AND I MEAN “EVERYONE”-PROPERTY OWNERS/COUNCIL/HYDROLIGISTS,CITY NATURALIST,CITY MANAGERS,ENGINEERS,CONTRACTORS,ETC. THEN THE PARTIES FOUND RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FUDGING SHOULD BE SUED AND HELD FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL CORRECTIONS IN NEED TO FULLY RESTORE THINGS TO THEIR ORIGINAL STATE IN 2006..
    FTR…. I DON’T BELIEVE THE SCHUBERT’S HAVE TAKE ANY PART IN ANY WRONG DOING AND FULLY SUPPORT THEM BUT THIS THING NEEDS AN ENDING SO THE WORLD OF RYE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

  39. Go to http://www.ryeny.gov/rctv.hm and look at part 1 of the last Council meeting June 10. Forward to 1 hour 08 min into it. You will see Mr. Tartaglione talking about collecting rainwater on Hen Island. Replay it a couple times so you really get a good feel for what he is saying. I’ll paraphrase it for you. What Mr. Tartaglione basically says is “Mr. Mayor, I take showers on Hen Island with water containing bird feces and I will continue to do so unless you stop me. Mr. Mayor, I take no responsibility for my own actions and am asking you, the CEO of Rye, to use the power of the gov’t to stop me from taking showers in water contaminated with bird feces”. If it wasn’t there on tape, as clear as day, you wouldn’t believe it. But there he is asking the Mayor to be a dictator, take over his life, and make all the decisions for him. Wow.

  40. When is the President of Heal the Harbor going to remove his sess pool that I assume is still there being used and, according to Heal the Harbor, polluting the Sound? Why is the President of Heal the Harbor still taking showers in bird feces water? Why doesn’t he remove his rain water cisterns and bring out fresh water to bath in from the mainland? Anyone know the answer to these basic questions?

  41. The below quote is from the HEALtheHARBOR.com homepage it is being used with the express permissions of Mr. Terry Backer the Executive Director for the Long Island Soundkeeper

    “Suffice it to say, we have enough information to know that Hen Island sewage has only one place to go, and that’s into the Long Island Sound.”
    —-
    “There appears to be pollution going into the Sound, and it’s good to see an individual taking on a group because of that.”
    — Terry Backer
    Executive Director, Soundkeeper

    http://healtheharbor.com/home.asp

    A quote from the Long Island Soundkeeper

  42. Move the car from the church Ray. That is inappropriate and you know it. A place of worship is not the place for this–or a school for that matter.

  43. “Suffice it to say, we have enough information to know that Westchester sewage has only one place to go, and that’s into the Long Island Sound.”

    There, that’s better and more accurate.

  44. Who cares what Terry Backer says? Does Terry Backer know the President of Heal the Harbor still has a sess pool when there are alternatives which are more environmentally friendly? When are you going to remove your sess pool Mr. President or are you waiting for the gov’t to do it for you? How many “environmentalists” do you know that wait for the gov’t to lead the way?

  45. The following is an excerpt from the website http://healtheharbor.com/ . It has been posted for over two years. We all know that the City of Rye has since found and issued violations for serious building and safety codes. I would say it was a cover-up from the beginning and you can read the proof below. The truth will soon be told about the sewage and septic systems. Mayor Otis has and is still covering up the Hen Island controversy. I wouldn’t vote for a polluter enabler for a Mayor but the Hen Islanders that want to continue their barbarian ways would.

    On July 17th, 2007, the City of Rye Building Department inspector, Vincent Tamburro, Ron Gatto, Westchester’s lead investigator on The Westchester County Environmental Enforcement Unit and The Westchester County Health Department Sanitarian, Matthew Smith conducted an inspection/investigation on Hen Island.

    Vincent Tamburro, as well as the other officials, agreed on the many volatile violations present on Hen Island. The only questions at the time were who the lead agency would be and to whom the County legal department or the City of Rye would issue summonses to, the homeowners or the corporate owners (Kuder Island Colony Inc).

    It was evident that the violations were present and serious. (Westchester County Environmental Security Specialist, Steven Carol documented this investigation in video).

    At the time of the investigation, Mr. Tamburro was given a list of building and safety code violations in addition to the sewer, water and mosquito infestation complaints. The list included items such as a staircase with a missing rail, rodent infestations, electrical and propane systems installed improperly, new wall construction, wall expansions, new walkways, debris being used as fill in the buffer zone, steel buried on the beaches for erosion control and sea walls installed below the high-tide water line, all completed without any permits from the required agencies.

    After the investigation, Mr. Tartaglione contacted the building department to inquire why the City of Rye had not answered his complaint. He was given the response that “The city attorney’s instructions were not to respond in writing to any of the complaints with regards to Hen Island.”

    Following his conversation with the building department, Mr. Tartaglione e-mailed a letter to Mayor Steven Otis and the city council. To date, the only answer he has received as to the violations was as a result of reading the comments in local newspapers.

    Assistant City Manager Scott Pickup said, “The City feels that the Island has complied with everything that has been asked of it by the City’s building department based on recent inspections over this summer.” (Ref: Rye Sound Shore Review September 21st, 2007)

    Paul Shew, Rye’s city manager, also questioned the validity of Mr. Tartaglione’s claims. Mr. Shew said, “No violations were found when Rye’s building inspector, along with county health and environment officials, inspected the island in July.” (Ref: New York Times September 9th, 2007)

    Mr. Shew added, “The city building inspector had last visited Hen Island in July with county Health Department officials and members of the county environmental police. No health violations were observed.

    ” It’s private property. We have to get permission to go on-site,” Shew said. “If there’s something that comes to our attention, we’ll look at it.”

    (Ref: Journal News September 4th, 2007)

    http://healtheharbor.com/codes/cityofrye.html

    Ray Tartaglione

    That should be good for about two days worth of personal attacks. Let ’em roll polluters!

  46. Ray will just ignore any post regarding where he parks his car. I guarantee that Ray feels that he is a ‘good person.’ One who will ‘do the right thing.’ Fat chance.

    I don’t really have an opinion one way or the other re: Hen Island, but I will tell you this: Ray is a POS for parking his car near the church because he has an issue with the City of Rye. PARK THE PHUCKING CAR AT CITY HALL!!!

  47. Ray will just ignore any post regarding where he parks his car. I guarantee that Ray feels that he is a ‘good person.’ One who will ‘do the right thing.’ Fat chance.

    I don’t really have an opinion one way or the other re: Hen Island, but I will tell you this: Ray is a POS for parking his car near the church because he has an issue with the City of Rye. PARK THE PHUCKING CAR AT CITY HALL!!!

  48. He obviously needs the attention. I don’t get it either, he is not going away. I guess we will have to deal with him and his antics until he finds another cause.

    I was just up in Scituate, Mass and they have some sewage issues in their harbor. Ray, do you like the Red Sox?

  49. if it was considered abandoned on Milton rd why is it not also considered abandoned in front of the church? Just tow it already!

  50. Hey, I came across some rotting old eggs left over from last April, and I’m planning on dumping them on Ray’s car. Since he continues to insult every Catholic by defacing church property and claiming to have conversations with Our Lord, I think it’s high time his POS turdmobile get spruced up with an egg shower.
    And if there’s any dog walkers reading this, you might want to send Ray a clear message of what you think of his car by leaving your dog’s droppings on the car itself. I think Ray would really appreciate that, as he seems to be in love with all things shitty.

  51. The Floatie Mobile is actually not in front of the Catholic Church nor the Presbyterian Church – is in front of a residence. More repetitive false stories from Hen Island crye babies. Clean up Ben – your sham is over.

  52. Ray,
    Come park your car on Midland. You won’t have to worry about it being towed on Midland- that’s for sure!!! Tons of traffic & exposure on a street that no one gives a shit about!!!

  53. Ray T.,
    I cut and pasted a bulletin that is the 2008 revision to this 2003 bulletin (link below). If you go to this link, the updated bulletin hasn’t been uploaded to the web site yet. This link still contains the 2003 bulletin. It should be updated soon.
    http://www.dos.state.ny.us/code/pdf/TBhuntfishcab.pdf

    This NYS code was added because there are 10’s of thousands of structures all over NYS that meet this description. Note that thy are allowed anywhere in the state except NYC. There are actually other people in this world who like living the way Hen Islanders live! If you read it you would think that it is talking about Hen Island specifically. It describes Hen Island perfectly. All Rye has to do is restore the zoning that Hen Island fell under when the initial zoning was first done in Rye back in the 50’s. All of the houses over by Playland and Oakland Beach were initially zoned Seasonal when zoning was implemented in the 50’s. Hen Island was also zoned Seasonal initally. When those houses on the mainland over by Oakland Beach were changed to be zoned residential, Hen Island, instead of being left as seasonal zoning, was zoned Non-conforming Residential. Below is the updated code bulletin. If Hen Island was reclassified in accordance with this bulletin, like it should be, much of your confusion would disappear.

    APA hunting and fishing cabins can be used anywhere in the state ( not NYC). The bulletin specifically states no electricity and may contain gravity water systems. U occupancy does not have plumbing requirements.
    BCNYS 312.1 General. Buildings and structures of an accessory character and miscellaneous structures not classified in any specific occupancy shall be constructed, equipped and maintained to conform to the requirements of this code commensurate with the fire and life hazard incidental to their occupancy.
    Here is the bulletin, updated:

    T E C H N I C A L B U L L E T I N
    Revised

    Code Effective Date: January 1, 2008
    Source Document: 19 NYCRR 1221 – Building Code of New York State (BCNYS)
    19 NYCRR 1225 – Fire Code of New York State (FCNYS),
    19 NYCRR 1240 – Energy Code of New York State (ECNYS)
    Topic: Occupancy Classification of APA Hunting and Fishing Cabins
    This document provides information with regard to the occupancy classification of hunting and fishing cabins.
    A “hunting and fishing cabin” is defined, in the regulations of the Adirondack Park Agency (APA), as “a cabin, camp or lean-to or other similar structure designed for occasional occupancy for hunting, fishing, or similar purposes.” These buildings are not “single family dwellings” in the APA regulations. These structures do not have connections to public utilities, i.e., no commercial electric power, no telephone service, no pressurized water system and no onsite waste water treatment system (septic) or sewer.
    Building Code of New York State (BCNYS) defines the term dwelling unit as “A single unit providing complete, independent living facilities for one or more persons, including permanent provisions for living, sleeping, eating, cooking, and sanitation.” Hunting and fishing cabins in New York State are designed for occasional use and meet the described definition. Gravity water systems for potable water, solar panels or propane/gas electric systems, gray water systems, chemical toilets, and sanitary pit privies are permitted.
    It is the opinion of the Division of Code Enforcement and Administration that a building meeting the APA definition of hunting and fishing cabin is classified most appropriately as Group U occupancy by the BCNYS section 312.1. The BCNYS provides that buildings classified as Group U occupancy shall comply with provisions relating to the adequacy of the structural system. Such buildings may be constructed on properly designed foundations of concrete blocks or on piers. BCNYS section 1103.2.5 exempts U occupancy buildings from its provisions for accessibility by physically disabled persons. There are no fire protection equipment requirements; however, section 508.1 exception 3 of the Fire Code of New York State (FCNYS) provides that buildings classified as Group U occupancy be at least 50 feet from the property lines. Such buildings are classified as “low energy use” buildings by Energy Conservation Construction Code (ECNYS) section 101.4.11 or as “renewable energy usage” buildings by ECNYS section 101.4.1.2, as applicable.

    A hunting and fishing cabin conforming to the requirements of this bulletin can also be constructed outside the Adirondack Park.

    Ronald E. Piester, AIA, Director
    Division of Code Enforcement and Administration

  54. A “hunting and fishing cabin” is defined, in the regulations of the Adirondack Park Agency (APA), as “a cabin, camp or lean-to or other similar structure designed for occasional occupancy for hunting, fishing, or similar purposes.” These buildings are not “single family dwellings” in the APA regulations.

    These structures do not have connections to public utilities, i.e., no commercial electric power, no telephone service, no pressurized water system and no onsite waste water treatment system (septic) or sewer.

    There are no fire protection equipment requirements; however, section 508.1 exception 3 of the Fire Code of New York State (FCNYS) provides that buildings classified as Group U occupancy be at least 50 feet from the property lines.

    Mayor Otis has his own set of rules when it comes to enforcing the law. You may get this passed working for the Otis administration but I doubt it would fly in any other community in Westchester. You really have to read what the regulations state before you post it. Try twisting some other laws it fit your needs. In the 1920 you could have called them campsites but when you start spending $90,000.00 to construct a wall and to enlarge a patio (Molloy Cottage) and $300.000.00 to construct a new Cottage (Ederer cottage) and 135,000.00 on legal fees to allow you to continue to pollute the Sound and endanger the residents it’s hard to say they are fishing cottages. You could have fixed the problems already. A half of million dollars goes a long long way. I hope the City understands that that whatever fines are imposed for building the $90,000.00 illegal wall that the fines will be split between thirty four homeowners. Maybe if they impose some heavy fines they will make everyone understand that they need permission to do work on the island. If the rules and codes were followed we wouldn’t be in this mess, neighbors.

    Ray Tartaglione

  55. I think you are confusing inflation with the building code of NYS. This doesn’t need to be passed, it’s law already in the State of New York.

  56. Ray T.,

    Are you content with the non-conforming status of Hen Island? Are in favor of classifting Hen Island correctly or are you in favor of keeping Hen Island’s status as ambiguios as possible as to keep everyone in the dark about what is, and what isn’t?

  57. Ray T,

    Don’t take my word for it, go ask Jonathan Glass, the man who speaks the kings english, how well the law would work if the terms used in the law weren’t defined properly. Ask him if there is anything in law analogous to “non-conforming” when it comes to defining terms of the law. That is why the law works resonably well, because everything is DEFINED properly. Hen Island should be defined PROPERLY else debacles like the one you are instigating will never cease when it comes to building code.

  58. Ray T.,

    I notice that you like the definition of Hen Island being a wetland but seem to be annoyed at the correct definition of the cottages on Hen Island. If I sold you an object defined as a diamond for $5 today then 50 years from now you sold it back to me for $1,000,000 would the object still be defined as a diamond?

  59. Ray, please don’t move that piece of crap until I’ve had a chance to dump some rotting eggs on it, maybe put sugar in the gas tank or pour coke all over the paint.

  60. “Ray, please don’t move that piece of crap until I’ve had a chance to dump some rotting eggs on it, maybe put sugar in the gas tank or pour coke all over the paint.”

    Now there are the Hen Island neighbors that I have known for years. Thanks for letting the rest of Rye see the type of people I have had to deal with for years. Mayor Otis take notice, these are the polluters you are protecting. Keep up the great work Steve!!
    Ray Tartaglione

  61. Ray, since you are in an “answering” mood today, give us a rough estimate of the number of times you or your corporation(s) have been in court (including Small Claims).

  62. “Now there are the Hen Island neighbors that I have known for years. ”

    If you knew them so well for years why did it take you so long to start labeling them as polluters?

  63. When is Rye going to classify Hen Island correctly now that there is a classification that describes Hen Island perfectly? The bulleting was written in 2003, that was 6 years ago!

  64. Well, I hope all citizens of this great town are enjoying their riparian rights the last couple days. When the water is up to the second floor in Indian Village on Sunday morning we can all thank people like Tedc, Joe Sack and the rest of the Republican Party for watching out for our right to water and for their disapproval of drywells.

  65. No one is against dry wells. We are just against the city not enforcing the laws across the board when it comes to approving and installing them.

  66. I tell tou what, if you’re into riparian rights, these last couple days have been like a holy week of religious bliss. I can’t wait until I start pumpimg out my basement and delivering thanks to the God of Riparian Rights! It’s times like these that I just pray to God I’m alive to pump out my basement filled with 4 feet of water and live to to tell the story.

  67. Riparian Wrong,

    You’re a lying sack of shit. You’re just an environmental terrorist trying to make peoples lives as miserable as possible.

  68. Blame no one but yourself Ray. You are the typical grandstander, no real merit, just money and time. That is what you are and move your fucking car away from our church.

  69. Really now- You people have got alot of growing up to do. I have never read such imature trash like this. All of you interact on here with Ray and in the same voice are dead against him. Since all of you have so much time on your hands why don’t you join my fight to make the roads safer. I could use a few people with alot of spare time and alot to say. You know how to reach me-I’ll be waiting.

  70. Mr. Amico,

    How about starting by getting your idol that you follow around like a little puppy dog to move his car. This would have an immediate effect on the safety of Rye’s streets. It would eliminate a permanent parked car which is hard for drivers to see around when kids jump out from behind and would also allow pedestrians better site lines when they are crossing the street. What do say?

  71. Ray, you fruitcake.

    I’m the EASTER BUNNY, you dipshit. I live on EASTER ISLAND, not Hen Island. Only chickens live on Hen Island.
    If you want to live on a glorious island, much better than Hen Island, we can look into giving you some space. We’ve got electricity, running water, modern plumbing, great fishing, a few native girls to keep you warm at night (or a boy, if you prefer – I seem to recall you’re afraid of teenage girls). We’ll even carve a statue in the form of Mr. Floatie to make you feel at home.

  72. Jim Amico writes:

    “Ray,
    Come park your car on Midland. You won’t have to worry about it being towed on Midland”

    That’s great Jim, another parked car for kids to jump out from behind it. Another blind spot on Midland for drivers t worry about. Do you really know what you want or are you a Traffic Saftey Terrorist just trying to make the Rye City Council’s job a nightmare?

  73. Growing up to do Amico? Please–a walking turd representing us and a car representing one mans obscure views in front of a church for weeks? That’s mature–

  74. It’s time to attach this classification to Hen Island. Before 2003 this classification didn’t exist in NYS but now they are perfectly acceptable structures within NYS ( except NYC ). I’m sure everyone on Hen Island would be glad to rid themselves of the “non-conforming” tag including Mr. Tartaglione. One of the big advantages of this is that potable water would no longer be an issue. What is being done on Hen Island now is perfectly acceptable to NYS.

    http://www.dos.state.ny.us/code/pdf/TBhuntfishcab.pdf

  75. Ray is a man of his word.

    I just saw the Turdmobile driving down Purchase St.

    When he does return to Rye, do you think he will have the balls to park near the church again?

  76. Just curious, lost in all of this acrimony is the best possible solutions for all.

    Axis proposed using self contained or environmentally friendly toilets. This solves the sewer issue.

    Bringing potable water to the island and storing it in the cisterns currently used for rainwater solves the water issue. if an individual wants to still use the rainwater, that is their choice and it affects no one else.

    Ray, I will ask you again: Why don’t you push for this solution? It is cost effective and easy to implement.

  77. Ray T.,

    Did you ask Jonathan Glass about whether there were terms in the law that were defined as “non-conforming”? In other words, are there terms in the law that are undefined? In a contract’s preamble, would there be terms in there that would be defined as “undefined”? Would Jonathan Glass advise one of his clients to sign a contract containing terms that were defined as “undefined’? Has he gotten back to you?

  78. The below quote is from the HEALtheHARBOR.com homepage it is being used on the web site with the express permissions of Mr. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

    ”Around the world, water supplies face relentless threats from industrial waste, agricultural pollution and poor sewage treatment. The battle to protect water purity must be fought not just by national governments but also in every town and village on the planet.

    Even in the U.S., which has some of the toughest environmental laws, safeguarding rivers and reservoirs is a constant struggle. While many companies obey the rules, others still try to use waterways as dumpsites. American environmental-enforcement officials have been bombed, shot, run over and sued while trying to perform their duties.

    But the most demoralizing blows invariably come from their employers: the Governor or commissioner who wants to shield a political contributor or recruit polluters to the state by shutting down environmental enforcement.”
    —-
    “Environmental injustice is morally equivalent to any other form of racism — it has immediate health impacts and in the longer-term destroys the cultures and vitality of our highest risk communities. Above all else, pollution is a human rights violation. We need to make sure that our laws, our enforcement and all of our institutions recognize, understand and eliminate environmental racism.
    The solution to environmental racism remains the same: Better, stronger, environmental enforcement that protects every community and every citizen from pollution.”
    — Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
    http://healtheharbor.com/home.asp

  79. Ray –

    Does environmental injustice include the use of your two-stroke marine engine? For those not in the know, a single two-stroke engine produces a pollution equivalent to that of 30 to 50 four-stroke automobiles.
    Does environmental injustice include the use of the lead additive you put in the gas tank of the turdmobile? For those not in the know, leaded gasoline is the main source of lead in our airs and waters – which is why unleaded gas was made mandatory for all new cars in the late 60’s/early 70’s. Even very low levels of lead can cause brain damage. Ray might want to consider getting rid of the Pollution-mobile.
    And isn’t that Kennedy guy a heroin addicted felon?

  80. More bullshit rhetoric without answers or results. A poster here submitted great solutions that Ray chooses to ignore. Instead he trots out the same, tired old nonsense.

    Self contained toilets and transportation of fresh water for those that don’t want to wash in rainwater are great solutions.

  81. Ray T. writes:

    “Around the world, water supplies face relentless threats”

    Exactly Ray, that is why collecting rainwater is so important. Hen Island puts no stress on the fresh water supplies in this area. We recyle rain water. Why is Heal the Harbor against recycling?

  82. I’s not surprising a person as elderly as Mr. Tartaglione thinks healing the environment means dredging across wetlands to put in a pipe for sewage and potable water. Growing up in the 60’s, back when the that famous advertisement of the crying Indian on the side of the road, sewers were the answer. Unfortunately, Mr. Tartaglione’s generation’s ideas has failed and now it’s time to move on to bigger and better ones. Sewers just dump the crap into the Sound and public water just causes people to waste it because it’s so freely available. The new generation sees this and is trying to apply new solutions. Mr. Tartaglione’s solutions are already passe and they haven’t even benn implmented. It’s time to move on past Mr. Tartaglione’s dated vision of environmentalism.

  83. Ray T.

    Did you know that 43% of the Hen Island board of directors have composting toilets installed in their cottages?

  84. Westchester and Rye may be surprised by this but Hen Island is only a couple composting toilets away from being one of the only full green communities on the Eastern Seaboard. Hen Island uses solar panels for all it’s electricity, recycles rain water and isn’t far from recycling their human waste. The only thing standing in their way is Heal The Harbor. How ironic is that?

  85. Westchester and Rye may be surprised by this but Hen Island is only a couple composting toilets away from being one of the only full green communities on the Eastern Seaboard. Hen Island uses solar panels for all it’s electricity, recycles rain water and isn’t far from recycling their human waste. The only thing standing in their way is Heal The Harbor. How ironic is that?
    Posted by: Prototype Green Community
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUDT-VsHDN4&NR=1

    Jack A. (Mr. Floatie’s ass-istant)

  86. Ray, if it turns out that your efforts don’t result in what you are attempting to accomplish, what will you do as far as ensuring that your house does not polute?

    How are you currently obtaining potable water, and how are you disposing of your waste (both human and non-human)?

    Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions

  87. Because he is simply an attention seeker, not an environmentalist. I wonder if anything will ever sell again on Hen Island?

  88. Looks like Jack A. has spoken for 60’s style environmentalism. It’s appropriate that tommorrow Heal the Harbor will be trying to convince stoned Clearwater Festival concert goers that Hen Island is a threat to humanity. I guess those tripping on acid are the only ones left that believe Heal the Harbor.

  89. Safer Roads,
    I noticed you left out the rest of my statement! How convienent. You wouldn’t know sarcasm if it jumped up and bit you in your ass. If you are going to respond to me and quote me please do it with honesty…. I don’t hide behind my words and can handle TRUTHFUL constructive critisism. BTW- I noticed you haven’t signed your name…. what’s the problem?

    Chris Henn,
    FTR- WE have multiple Turds in Rye! So you consider where Ray parks his car imature and the trash written here isn’t???
    Obviously you believe Ray is in the wrong…. so as adults you defend it with more wrong???? What are you stuck in 3rd grade???

  90. Let’s have some fun today in this sleepy little suburb. Everyone redirect your down spouts from the gutters into your neighbors yard! Let’s make sure not one drop of rain enters a drywell! If you don’t participate Joe Sacks will hold special investigations to find out where your water went and why you have denied your neighbors the right to your runoff. The goal is to for everyone in Rye to have a pond as beautiful as Bob Shubert’s come Sunday night. Ya gotta love those Riparian rights.

  91. R.I.P.,
    Let’s see…… A couple buys a piece of wet lands property, constructs an outrageously beautiful pond using the natural resources provided to him from land/mother nature, the pond brings in money which is 100% given to charity. Then all hell breaks loose… which I might add the Schubert’s played no part in.
    Now we are as far as talking about Riparian Rights.
    I find it amusing that all of you Otis supporters leave out the beginning/middle & probably the end, when it comes, when referring to this subject.
    BTW- AS the Schubert’s expert pointed out….
    ” DRY WELLS ARE NOT INSTALLED ON WETLANDS”

  92. Actually NTouch – it was the city’s former naturalist – not the Schubert hired expert – who made the determination it was a wetland. The Schubert expert, Bill Canavan, only said it was likely a wetland because he was denied access to the property so he couldn’t test it.

    And in case anyone now wants to try and discredit Chantal, please remember that the city’s own specially hired “expert hydrologist” – Kevin Philips – also testified publicly that the Gates property was a wetland. And Philips WAS granted access to the property.

  93. So where will Ray drop his turd next? I’m sure he will park it somewhere distasteful so that he gets ‘maximum exposure.”

    Loser.

  94. ” DRY WELLS ARE NOT INSTALLED ON WETLANDS”

    Neither are ponds. In fact, ponds are the single worst thing to do to a wetland to destroy the natural flow of water. Also, Water stored in Shubert’s pond heats up and destroys the ecosystem in the Sound where Schubert’s pond dumps. The unnatural temperature doesn’t allow for a natural habitat to evolve or be retained. Ponds are an environmental distater as EVIDENCED by Bob Schubert’s pond. Rye’s environmentalists would now an environmental disaster even if it hit them right between the eyes.

  95. When is the President of Heal the Harbor going to stop using his sess pool? There are solutions which are approved by the BOH and he continues to refuse to do anything about cleaning up his own life.

  96. Is it true that 43% of Hen Island Board of Directors have made personal decisions to be environmentally responsible by using composting toilets and the President of Heal the Harbor still uses a sess pool????????? Is this clown for real?

  97. Riparian Rights

    Sounds like you’re ready to hop the new false narrative now being peddled by Councilman Cunningham that the Schubert Pond was illegally constructed?

    Before you do know that this nonsense is directly refuted by a reading of the full text of the written approvals obtained years ago from multiple agencies. Interestingly none of these agencies was allowed to say “boo” when the upland Gates wetland construction took place – don’t you wonder why?

    Doesn’t The Gang of Steve recognize this particularly lame late hour gambit is just what the doctor ordered for a revelation of the true forces behind the previous bureaucratic stonewalling and black letter environmental law breaking? Somewhere The Gang’s future political opponents are smiling….

  98. Tedc,

    You are so bitter. It’s amazing how much time and effort you spend trying to make people’s lives miserable. I am not hopping the new false narrative. I am for personal property rights. I am for the Gates’ right to protect their property. I also believe that getting a permit would have changed nothing. Everything was done in good faith. If Mr. Schubert’s pond is TOTALALLY reliant on ONE drywell in the whole water shed, than he made a terrible personal decision and he should man up and fix it. Stop playing the blame game. We’ve already seen the results of the opposition of the status quo with the BOE elections. If the people of this City are stupid enough to make a second mistake, they deserve everything they get.